“At the end of the day, it is about the material and about the culture.
“Because there are better musicians – jazz musicians – that will never be able to make the money that people who are less talented but have charisma [are able to make].
“You can go to school to learn guitar or bass – you can’t learn, ‘You’re exciting. You have charisma.’ There’s no school for that. Walk this way, do it that way. You just have it or you don’t.”