Def Leppard’s Joe Elliott sat down with Ghost’s Tobias Forge for a new interview with NME, talking about the track and the ‘resurgence of rock.’

Elliott said that Def Leppard and Bon Jovi, coming in the 80s and putting it on full gear, showed that rock wasn’t an underground genre.

Joe said:

“I’m in Mexico City where Def Leppard just played to 56,000 people. Ghost are playing to huge crowds as well. Metal, pop rock, soft rock, hard rock, whatever-the-f*ck-rock has never really gone away in the eyes of the fans.

”It comes and goes, though. It wasn’t big in the ’80s until we and Bon Jovi came along and kicked it up the arse. Then it went underground again before it turned into grunge, then emo. Who knows what’s coming next.”

Tobias Forge also added about rock music, saying:

“Look at a band like Måneskin. That’s a sign people don’t shy away from organic music. When we speak about the well-being of rock, there’s a common misunderstanding that if there’s going to be a resurgence, the classic bands will come back around. I’m counting on bands we don’t know leading the way.

“In the early 2000s, I was completely estranged from a lot of popular music until bands like Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and The Hives made it feel interesting again. That’s what we have ahead of us, I think, a whole slew of 18-year-olds listening to [‘Spillways’] and feeling like they should go out and play music.”